Analysis of Alex Jones informal debates / discussions

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Debate between Rivero, Tarpley (Jones moderating) 10-4-08

• Rivero looks at the nation as a microcosm to the corruption of the US that makes Obama accountable for his campaign promises (though FISA and Bailout already violated)
  • good point about how Hilary seemed to be the chosen figure, and McCain would have defeated her (giving the corporations overt US control) (yet I'll add the globalists and military care not who wins, e.g. ...)
  • another point to be added...

• Tarpley looks at a macro view of the US foreign policy and attempts looking 3-5 and more years in advance which is what military strategists, globalist, and social engineers are doing.
  • good point about the fervor around the new president that makes many not look at the issues as much as blinding to simply questioning their elected leaders and holding them accountable
  • good point how the rest of the world is now seeing the US, as if the president of the US is the president of the world (though it may be so because of military might, though the rest of the world is catching up, and combined meet or beat)

• • Fairness doctrine is indeed BS because if you don't have an opposing view, you can't do the show. If the opposing view is false, like mercury vaccines are good, they basically get equal time. Finally, the opposing view is a technique to keep it to a 2 party dialog (no 3rd party views as they are excluded as usual).

• Jones
  • good point about the tribalization to divide and conqueror --- Therefore both Mike and Webster have good points (though the hostility should be directed at the globalists), and hopefully this informal debate was a chance to enhance both their views.

to be edited, just a start

Jones debates Peter Joseph

• [Zeitgeist: Addendum] (first 2 parts good, other parts are wishful dreams that's jumping the current conflict being faced) - the fractional reserve money system enslaves countries including America to the global banker cartel, creating a class warfare, and an ultimate power of debt money through interest (bribing, corrupting, deceiving, and by force overthrowing, invading, assassinating the leaders and populations to enslave the people of the world). After hearing Alex Jones the Peter Joseph dialog Oct 15, 08. On religion, yes, it limits, but it also provides a level of ethics and morals to those who have none, after that, it can and has been used to limit thought and control. Yet no one can take away the fact that people are made by a Creator (and our free will if exercised we can choose to experience the benefit of [spirituality]). (Therefore my rights are (Creator) God-given, making me sovereign that no state, no New World Order can take away (although they try via brainwashing, force, monetary control to enslave)) On the differential advantage of money, that is societies flaw. Yet to say technology will simply solve everything, it takes labor and intellectual capital to create these machines, not exactly an easy task to build or program (to make the other 90% of society's life peachy). Though let's for sake of argument, say that this is an altruistic / hedonistic labor of love so that a persons potential can be achieved, fine. The problem with a resource based society, instead of the [monetarism], and have a society based on resourcism. In fact, this has been proposed, last I heard by the [Clinton Presidential Center] to have poor third world countries trade their resources as barter for western technology, perhaps a microcosm of this resource based swap to the corrupt fractional reserve. Ok, perhaps a stretch. The idea of resourcism society is a noble goal, this star trek 'federation' like world with renewable inputs needs a way to transition from the current monetarism system to the resource system. Of course people will not be convinced, so start with a village, then expand, like American Indians have expanded with Casino reservations. If there is no transition plan to work within the corrupt system to aquire your small village resource managed utopia, it won't work. As it goes back to an infowar or propaganda between the ideal resource based village and fractional reserve system. Two points, such a system can be easily labeled as a cult-like Wacho and attacked, that could be a problem between two existing systems if there is a period that they may run concurrently. With resource management, resources are still scarce, everyone can't use these magically created machines at the same time, that schedule of the machines is a scarcity in itself, along with food scarcity, land scarcity on Earth, etc. Excellent definitions of the New World Order and their goals by Jones. And everything can't simply be nurture over nature, otherwise as an example, every homosexual should be straight in societies that stimitized the act. Finally, the connotation of the word 'evil' is simply a word, to censor it is not productive.